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Re: is it task avoidance?

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Posted by Spratley on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 at 12:02:59 :

In Reply to: is it task avoidance? posted by shane on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 at 20:01:43 :

: i really appreciate the insight from spratley and trablano...very cool.

: i think what im trying to determine is whether or not it is a good thing to study foreign experience. i can see the benefit of adopting some views and rejecting or reacting to others...still forming a unique and individual view..to "climb the mountain"...
When I studied philosophy formally, I never thought of it as studying foreign experience. Lights went on and things clicked into place when what the author was talking about touched on something personal. I identified with or understood how one could identify with an idea when it made sense in my own personal context. Surely we cannot make sense of something if there is nothing in our own minds to attach it to, so I don't think anyone ever relies on foreign experience, unless they take up that foreign idea and insert it into themselves as an experience in itself --as a devotee would do with a doctrine. Read the doctrine, decide that it will be the basis for all your beleifs, and forever after you come back to that idea because of that decision you made.

: i see us each having such a unique collective experience...that it is hard for me to understand how we can settle on a common plane in self understanding.
I don't think we should. Is that what you are alluding to?

: obviously, we all absorb what is useful..but it just seems to be such a complex chain of experience that leaves so many forks in the road....the only common conclusion that i can comprehend is that there is nothing to know..and nothing that can be proven or disproven....i agree that we are all a compilation/mixed bag of pre-existing beliefs rolled up into a slightly modified package...i guess what im also wondering is this: the deeper we dig the more we need to work it seems. is the true task to discover peace within our personal realities? is deep thought diving pain avoidance?...or do we truly believe that the anwers need to be unearthed rather than just stopping. im sure that alot of us know that diving inside our minds can get to be really painful..does that mean that a lack of self exploration(facing reality) is more painful for some of us...or is reality an everchanging floating point? i wonder if the less we dig the less their is to climb out of...which is why i wonder if outside theoryand philosophy only creates a deeper hole to climb out of....
I think you're on the right track.

: im interested in...maybe being convinced otherwise..haha
: shane

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